Anyone willing to help out?
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iridescent_slime said:
Don't let other people tell you who to blacklist, friend.
In the first place I think they're looking for suggestions, not commands.
That being said, without knowing the exact nature of what you're trying to avoid, it's hard to give any helpful suggestions.
Do you dislike Western art styles? The inclusion of Western political commentary? The fairly pervasive fringe fetishes (which can be disturbing/off-putting)?
There are a whole lot of Western artists on danbooru. Help us narrow it down a bit.
Specifically I'm looking to crop out those who employ the use of thick, computer-assisted lines and unbalanced proportions. Its indigenous to artists with classical anatomy training resulting in this western cartoon/anime style hybrid when they attempt and fail to adopt the Japanese aesthetic. I really don't like seeing this style in my danbooru feed but sadly just blacklisting "patreon_logo" isn't enough to really remove them.
HeartSutra said:
Specifically I'm looking to crop out those who employ the use of thick, computer-assisted lines and unbalanced proportions. Its indigenous to artists with classical anatomy training resulting in this western cartoon/anime style hybrid when they attempt and fail to adopt the Japanese aesthetic. I really don't like seeing this style in my danbooru feed but sadly just blacklisting "patreon_logo" isn't enough to really remove them.
I'm pretty sure not everyone that uses patreon or uses a patreon logo censor has that artstyle you're (not) looking for.
With that said, i don't think anyone here can help, also because i personally still don't understand what you mean. Just start browsing, if you find some people that meet your blacklist status quo just add them to the blacklist. After the first week or so you should be able to weed out most.
New artists pop up everyday, there's no way to list them all under a set of specific artstyles, and there's no way to blacklist all of them. There's probably some extension that allows you to blacklist on the fly, but i personally don't use any.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried making a list of Western artists worth blacklisting that don't adhere to the anime aesthetic and was willing to share. Like you said, there are always new artists, but that doesn't make it any less worth it to try if you're like me and Western hybrid style is a real fly in the ointment. It doesn't sounds like anyone on this thread has developed an "eye" for it though so all I can do is hope someone else comes along.
In the meantime though, here's mine. I'll come back to update the list every now and then in case someone else finds it useful.
cucco_king
jtveemo
waero
bbc-chan
patreon_username
furry -rating:s
dross
patreon_logo
bluefield
afrobull
patreon
If i may
that don't adhere to the anime aesthetic
I think i already said this, but as there is no "western" style, there also is no "anime" style. A lot of japanese artists employ "thick, computer-assisted lines and unbalanced proportions", and surely not all of them have a classical anatomy training.
I've noticed you blacklisted waero, who i don't think fits the description of "use of thick, computer-assisted lines and unbalanced proportions", and i think fits the "anime" artstyle quite a bit. But given that you don't like him, i don't really know what artstyle trying to blacklist.
Casting that aside, I don't think a thread like this will be useful to most people here, and noone so far expressed interest.
You can update the list by editing your post, some people will be able to find this thread through the search function.
Please don't bump it up if you're just updating your blacklist, it's not relevant enough to stay on the first page for multiple weeks or months.
I'm frankly more confused now after seeing the blacklist.
Waero is Taiwanese, is Taiwan western? His style doesn't really match what you described, either. Afrobull matches the description of thick lines, though I'm not entirely clear what "imbalanced proportions" means, none of these artists seem to misuse proportions any more than your average Japanese artist. Not sure what "computer assisted" means, either. Almost everyone uses drawing tablets these days. There just doesn't seem to be any consistency in the styles of the artists listed.
This honestly doesn't seem like something anyone could help you with, it's not like there's one specific "anime" style to reference as the objective ideal, I don't think the chances are very high for someone who happens to share your specific taste showing up. Maybe 5-10 years ago, when arguments over uploading western artists at all were more common, but not many people seem to be as vocal about that these days.
Your best bet would be going to the artists list and searching for artists from western sites:
You can also try searching the related tags page for artists related to tags associated with western styles:
What you consider to be western is up to you. Many popular "western" artists aren't actually from the west, and there are plenty of Japanese artists out there who don't do the traditional anime artstyle.
Uhh I mean I just got started, so I still have a long way to go about it in refinement. I explained already my points but for more detail I'm talking
a) anime aesthetic adhereing to basic Japanese conventions such as large eyes, rubberized limbs, frequent use of anatomical shorthand, and emphasis on weighty lineart and cell shading
b) western style (Again, the result of artists who train in classical anatomy then try applying their knowledge to anime which results in a visual clash) NOT inherently western artists. Sorry for any confusion but it just rolls off the keyboard better than "blacklisting of artists who learn Western drawing and painting styles and incorporate Western cartoony anatomy".
evazion said:
Your best bet would be going to the artists list and searching for artists from western sites:
You can also try searching the related tags page for artists related to tags associated with western styles:
- 'realistic' artists
- 'lips' artists
- 'nose' artists
- 'english_commentary' artists
- 'english_text' artists
- 'patreon_reward' artists
What you consider to be western is up to you. Many popular "western" artists aren't actually from the west, and there are plenty of Japanese artists out there who don't do the traditional anime artstyle.
Thank you very much! That's very helpful. Well again, I'm not trying to remove everyone that has even a drop of Western blood, just the style. It's just that most of the western style artists incapable of drawing below the knees shill out on Patreon and I'm willing to lose out on a few artists if it means most of them get cut. And yes, you're right that there are Japanese artists who don't follow the anime aesthetic, but especially here on Danbooru, they're in the overwhelming minority. Any Pixiv top rankings you'll find will embody most if not all the qualities I listed. It's that way because of Japan's media consumers and creators being closely intertwined, as opposed to the West where content creation has a very clear formal art education divide, but unfortunately it doesn't cross over well visually in my opinion.