Learn how to use your blacklist. And, please, refrain from adding irrelevant tags to the posts.
While I fully agree that blocklists should be used, I also agree that this is really excessive. It's been excessive ever since MLP:FiM started, and is still excessive. I think I simply don't understand the appeal. What has the artist added to the character by drawing them in the form of a very stylized pony? Imagine, for example, that Dragon Ball Z started airing tomorrow and all the fans rushed to turn every character from everything (pretty sure I saw some Firefly ponies once, seriously) into a Namekian. Wouldn't it be quite a bit odd?
Instead of flagging this image and downvoting my comment just because you happen to disagree with it, I invite you to send me a DMail.
No kidding. I'm genuinely interested in - and would like to discuss - the possible reason(s) behind the hatred of "My Little Pony", which I consider to be completely unwarranted.
Anyway, if THIS gets deleted because of "quality" when shit with obvious MS Paint fill failures like this or overtly jagged pixelation like this stay, I'll have a nice, bitter laugh.
D'Eye said:
No kidding. I'm genuinely interested in - and would like to discuss - the possible reason(s) behind the hatred of "My Little Pony", which I consider to be completely unwarranted.
I'm fairly sure the whole thing started around 4chan, where, keep in mind, a huge portion of the userbase are males young enough that they're still trying to "prove" they're old enough not to watch Power Rangers anymore.
MLP may have possibly started, or at least was spread, as a means of trolling, since it was assumed that a "Television show for little girls" would enrage those types who still recoiled from pink for fear of their masculinity. It either kinda-sorta backfired, or else there were enough genuine fans, (most likely because it was made by Lauren Faust, who's famous for making Powerpuff Girls and Fauster's Home, and the first two seasons, at least, being decently entertaining, if still obviously designed for children,) because there came to be a massive and rabid fanbase that seems to genuinely adore it.
That said, the "brony" community has certainly done plenty to make itself unwelcome with others. There's a rather disproportionate amount of genuinely furry porn made with it, for one, and the fanbase has more than a few jackasses, in general. Bronies have high overlap with other movements that garner significantly more controversy and ire, such as the whole Gamergate thing. This is probably just because of the overlap in the causes of entering each side - young, male, Internet-obsessed, and at least some satellite connection to Reddit or 4chan. It doesn't particularly matter what side you're on of any issue, eventually, you're likely to see some Bronies who are jackasses arrayed against you, and if you're already dispossessed to hate them for being "furries" or because some troll kept showing them in a "serious board" or something, then it just helps cement the impression.
For what it's worth, I've seen the shows, just to see what the fuss was about, and it's OK, but I'd still rather watch Powerpuff. At least up to the 3rd season, though, it's entirely watchable. I'll probably be seeing a lot more of it as my niece gets older, and I have to babysit her, anyway. Compared to other crap aimed at girls in the age bracket, like Strawberry Shortcake, it's a damn blessing.
I'm fairly sure the whole thing started around 4chan, where, keep in mind, a huge portion of the userbase are males young enough that they're still trying to "prove" they're old enough not to watch Power Rangers anymore.
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So it seems. Especially considering that all I've got after my (hopefully) civil offer were more downvotes and another flag.
That said, the "brony" community has certainly done plenty to make itself unwelcome with others.
I agree. And I don't consider myself to be part of this bunch - even though I find the show to be fun. Alas, but many people tend to judge an entire franchise just by its retarded fandom.
So it seems. Especially considering that all I've got after my (hopefully) civil offer were more downvotes and another flag.
I agree. And I don't consider myself to be part of this bunch - even though I find the show to be fun. Alas, but many people tend to judge an entire franchise just by its retarded fandom.
As with any non-target-demographic fandom, you're going to get a wide range of personality types, and the more "fringe" elements among them are going to be that much more intensely fringe. I've been part of only a few organized fandoms, but there've been drama kings/queens, prima donnas, haters, elitists, purists, and similar in all of them, to one extent or another. There have also been plenty of perfectly nice, tolerant people in those fandoms. They simply don't stand out as much as the fringe elements because they tend to be less vocal, or at least less intensely vocal. MLP fandom/Bronies are no exception.
The more abrasive/unpleasant aspects of the fringe fandom will color the perceptions not only of the most reactive hater types (such as the 4chan demographic NWSiaCB mentions), but of people who don't have the time or patience for such fringe fans, or who've been burned by bad fandom experiences before, or who, for any number of reasons, just don't like MLP (or whatever the fandom's focus is). The unfortunate result is that perfectly decent art like this draws unwarranted vitriol.
For those with a thing against MLP or the more unpleasant aspects of the Bronies, one can try to help them realize that art like this still stands on its own merits, regardless of whether they dislike the subject matter, and that their anti-MLP bias would merit a blacklist on their part, nothing more. Such preferences tend to have high emotional investment, however, and so convincing the parties involved to take a more moderate approach is far easier said than done.
As with any non-target-demographic fandom, you're going to get a wide range of personality types, and the more "fringe" elements among them are going to be that much more intensely fringe. I've been part of only a few organized fandoms, but there've been drama kings/queens, prima donnas, haters, elitists, purists, and similar in all of them, to one extent or another. There have also been plenty of perfectly nice, tolerant people in those fandoms. They simply don't stand out as much as the fringe elements because they tend to be less vocal, or at least less intensely vocal. MLP fandom/Bronies are no exception.
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I concur. And just to clarify: I didn't mean to say that each and every Brony is an idiot, nor do I think so.
Anyway, if THIS gets deleted because of "quality" when shit with obvious MS Paint fill failures like this or overtly jagged pixelation like this stay, I'll have a nice, bitter laugh.
I'm fairly sure the whole thing started around 4chan, where, keep in mind, a huge portion of the userbase are males young enough that they're still trying to "prove" they're old enough not to watch Power Rangers anymore.
MLP may have possibly started, or at least was spread, as a means of trolling, since it was assumed that a "Television show for little girls" would enrage those types who still recoiled from pink for fear of their masculinity. It either kinda-sorta backfired, or else there were enough genuine fans, (most likely because it was made by Lauren Faust, who's famous for making Powerpuff Girls and Fauster's Home, and the first two seasons, at least, being decently entertaining, if still obviously designed for children,) because there came to be a massive and rabid fanbase that seems to genuinely adore it.
That said, the "brony" community has certainly done plenty to make itself unwelcome with others. There's a rather disproportionate amount of genuinely furry porn made with it, for one, and the fanbase has more than a few jackasses, in general. Bronies have high overlap with other movements that garner significantly more controversy and ire, such as the whole Gamergate thing. This is probably just because of the overlap in the causes of entering each side - young, male, Internet-obsessed, and at least some satellite connection to Reddit or 4chan. It doesn't particularly matter what side you're on of any issue, eventually, you're likely to see some Bronies who are jackasses arrayed against you, and if you're already dispossessed to hate them for being "furries" or because some troll kept showing them in a "serious board" or something, then it just helps cement the impression.
For what it's worth, I've seen the shows, just to see what the fuss was about, and it's OK, but I'd still rather watch Powerpuff. At least up to the 3rd season, though, it's entirely watchable. I'll probably be seeing a lot more of it as my niece gets older, and I have to babysit her, anyway. Compared to other crap aimed at girls in the age bracket, like Strawberry Shortcake, it's a damn blessing.
I agree that the ire against MLP incubated from being propagated on 4chan to provoke reaction but not that the reaction has anything to do with dispossession or trying to seem more mature. It was just posted simply to distract conversation and to annoy; it was and is simply annoying, and off-topic. Also an argument resting on an analogy to gamergate is usually pretty weak.
Part of what makes it so annoying is 4chan was originally an anime-oriented culture and still is on most boards. Someone with an anime-obsession who likes to attach an anime picture on their post doesn't normally cause disturbance since people are so used to seeing it and likely enjoy anime themselves. Anthropomorphized toonish horses however, no. Someone with the same obsession with ponies as one with anime is inevitably going to cause conflict as they post desk top screenshots with pony bgs, use pictures of ponies as reaction images or comics etc.